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| Buuberries | Jan 27 2016, 06:38 PM Post #61 |
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it's okay im here to give you mouth-to-mouth idt that will do anything so i'll just lick the blood off your face Edited by Buuberries, Jan 27 2016, 06:43 PM.
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| + Pointer | Jan 27 2016, 08:37 PM Post #62 |
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theory of gravity describes why the objects attract each other, whilst the law of gravity describes the attraction between two objects certainly a thing to try by jumping off the cliff eh ? Go back to Newton and tell this to him We already knew the attraction its why we have the law of gravity |
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| * Sousen Ichimonji | Jan 27 2016, 09:42 PM Post #63 |
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You are calm and reposed, let your beauty unfold
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Lord Protector I swear if I see you say this one more time... |
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| Jonnoley | Jan 27 2016, 10:12 PM Post #64 |
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Just to clear up some of the misconceptions in that wall of Answers-In-Genesis nonsense you posted: Carbon dating involves measuring the amount of beta decay taking place in a previously biological specimen. Beta decay is (essentially) a mechanism where a proton turns into a neutron by emitting an electron, which is how Carbon-14 (a nucleus made up of 8 protons and 6 neutrons) can turn into a regular Nitrogen molecule (7 protons and 7 neutrons). Because of this nuclear imbalance, Carbon-14 is radioactive, and emits beta particles to stabilise itself. It has a half life of about 5,000 years, which if you're unfamiliar with it means that after that length of time, half of the radioactive material will have vanished. So if you have 200 radioactive nuclei, after one half life you'll have 100, then after two you'll have 50, and three 25, and so on. We determine how much Carbon-14 is in a substance by the amount of beta radiation it emits. But there is a constant source of background radiation (from cosmic and some terrestrial sources), and we can't determine between the two sources. If a certain amount of time has passed, the radioactive activity from the object will be of about the same magnitude as the background noise and we can't accurately date it. This takes tens of thousands of years - we'll be very conservative and just say radiocarbon dating is only accurate until 20,000 years ago, and it only works for organic materials. Carbon-14 is only found in coal seams where the surrounding rocks have some radioactive activity, by the way. This activity can create Carbon-14 inside the seam. Radiocarbon dating isn't the only radioactive dating method though. Rocks containing Potassium or Uranium can be dated as well for a much, much larger range than radiocarbon dating, up to billions of years. We can also see how magnetic elements inside rocks are aligned compared to layers around them, as the Earth's magnetic field has changed orientation quite a few times throughout the Earth's (very long) history. Fossils tend to be dated by the radioactive or magnetic content of the rocks they were excavated from. And biological material has been found on fossils which have been dated - it only occurred to most archaeologists to check once the chuck of T-Rex tissue found by Dr. Schweitzer had been uncovered. It simply isn't intuitive that dinosaur proteins would survive that long, and in fact they wouldn't have if it weren't for the unusually high iron content in the tissue at the time, which preserved it. In short, radiocarbon dating isn't the sum total of archaeological dating - it's only the most useful tool for early human history, which is why it gained such mass appeal. We have loads of other methods to date bits of dinosaur. |
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| + Pointer | Jan 28 2016, 11:09 AM Post #65 |
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As for buuberries post. So we have a fact evolution but the way we describe it ( natural selection) is a theory still. Sometimes i wonder how you all manage to handle all the bulls*** i posts because my reading skills tend to be nullified whenever someone posts some trivial stuff. My apology to bringing this back up again. I cant help my always irritating self centered selfish uneducated personal traits. And as for now i admit defeat and such big bang theory is not perfect yet it id the best way for todays science to describe the nature of the universe. Evolution by natural selection was proven trustworthy enough to approve it as a general method of how life emerged from nucleus to living organism. This whole bulls*** i posted came from my uneducated mind supported by webpages which were created by other uneducated ppl who as they as I havent paid attention to other more reliable source of information on the web to read and learn instead of posting crap willingly. Again sorry for the inconveniences and aneorisms i give you a smile in return I quit.
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| SpeedoTrunks | Jan 28 2016, 12:58 PM Post #66 |
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Lord Protector, please read the below, AND NEVER ASK AGAIN:
Meaning, the general day-to-day term of Theory, that you keep referring to is:"Well I presume this will/might happen, lets try it out as it must be true", where as the Scientific idea is "Yes it may be something completely different, but all evidence gathered point to [Answer X]. [Answer Y] may be on the table, but seems unlikely at this moment in time". Yes Darwin's initial theory had holes in it, hell even look at the famous image of a chimp turning into a man. Of course that in itself is false, but the idea is sound, that a common ancestor of all apes, (as we in ourselves are a member of the Great Ape family), evolved differently with some turning into us and others into other sub-species. Its even theorized (scientifically I may add) that its highly possible that the different sub-human species came together to then ultimately breed what we know as the current "modern day man". As per my previous post, why are you asking this stuff....OVER...and OVER again? I'm not sure what others think, but the scientific theory suggests that all things point to something, and if (for example) GOD/GODS burst into the sky right now and declared it was they that made the universe, (and of course if they could prove it), every single one of us would say "Fair enough" and go with it. But until that happens, we will all seek a rational explanation of how/why things came to be. Again, there are holes in everything, but its a small hole compared to the gaping abyss that is "god did it". This is why Science simply "is". Even with those small holes, we are constantly trying to find the "why" and "how" there can be a hole somewhere, that we don't know about. So for the love of whatever it is you think is really going on, please just leave it be. Whatever you believe to have happened......honestly its fine, and nobody cares. I don't mean that in a negative way, if anything I mean it positivly. People believe what they want, and that's fine. You honestly don't care for science and how it works, so that's fine, just ignore it. We teach this stuff in schools because right now, its the most accurate thing we have to saying "this is what goes on in life/the universe, and we have evidence to back it up" and until it's proven otherwise, that's how its going to be. If you think otherwise, please write a scientific paper, with all the evidence you have, and present it to the community, because I can promise you it'd be looked at, and if its valid......and then the world will say "fair enough mate" and change things. But arguing on a blood dragon ball z forum, IS NOT the way to do this. Seriously, get over it/yourself/what ever, and just move on with your life. If you want to reply, then fine, but please dont make it more of: "well you guys, I saw [on a pro-religion/anti science website] that this says something thats total nuts, and I'm not going to look into it myself first, I'm just going to ask you guys.......cause its truth, you bloody ignorant fools" because we're all very tired of it, and my brain is hurting from not knowing why you're being difficult with everybody on here. Admins, please close this/any thread like this, as its just garbage. Infinite reels of garbage, that is making several members of the board go insane. This essentially could just be a Copy/paste thread for somebody like Buu, who comes into this every time like "Again? URGH". So enough. Please. Just sit down, and think about why any of this is relevant, and why you think that a Dragon Ball Z sub-forum, if the best place to raise these issues. |
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| + Pointer | Jan 28 2016, 01:06 PM Post #67 |
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I thought well, finally someone with a decent posts until i read this
Just dont fckin tell me what to or what not to do right If everyone had the same opinion this whole forum wouldnt even existsBesides I have admitted that I misunderstood a lot of thing, no need to sum it again and again and again and again especially when you clearly said that you are fed up with that. Also I never stated the Bible has the ultimate ace card, I didnt even bring that up to bring a "solution" of myself to defy the scientific method Edited by Pointer, Jan 28 2016, 01:09 PM.
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| SpeedoTrunks | Jan 28 2016, 01:22 PM Post #68 |
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As I said, "As an Example" I didn't say that you had said that, in terms of bible stuff. And chill out, What I'm asking you to do is think about what you're typing and way/if its relevent. I agree, no everybody has the same opionion, and that's why I also said "nobody cares" because in the real world, honestly nobody does care if you're religous/not/whatever, because its not important. Correct sir, I am tired of it.......but every body is, go back 5 pages in this thread and who knows how many pages in various other threads......its just the same stuff over and over again. Honestyl, I mean no hard feelings towards you, I just want to stop......or else the forum will be doign this again. I agree, a couple of threads on this is great, but constant threads (spanning years is one of Buu's posts is correct) when YOU know all of our mind sets on this, is just being done for arguments sake, which is futile, it solves no problems. Want to solve your problem? Go and solve it. Want more threads like this on here, then fine, post away, but it always comes down to this: You "don't understand" something, we all give you countless examples, that you can look up yourself by the way, and then the thread dies a death like 6-8 months later. Seriously, just let it go. |
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| Tim | Jan 29 2016, 08:40 AM Post #69 |
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Okay. This needs to chill please. Let's take a break from this conversation.
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